Lil Wayne recently took part in an hour-long discussion on his podcast, “More To It,” with retired American football star Marcellus Wiley. The podcast features conversations with performers.

Wayne talked to Birdman and Slim about being a student of the game every day, growing up in the 17th Ward of New Orleans, dressing up as Michael Jackson and performing for his family at a young age (this is when he realized he loved performing), his late stepfather Rabbit, the Cash Money/Ruff Ryders tour, Slim Williams, and the moment when he realized he was a solo artist and not a Hot Boy anymore.

During their conversation, Weezy also discussed his desire to become the greatest musician of all time, what it’s like to be in the company of the greatest rapper of all time, Roger Federer’s status as the greatest of all time in tennis, playing tennis with his buddy T@, the moment he declared on “Undisputed” that he did not believe in racism, the Green Bay Packers, his preference for Los Angeles over Miami, and what he would tell his older self if he could go back in time.

After the jump, you can watch a short part of Tunechi’s chat with Marcellus below and stream the entire episode on Apple Music. When asked who he believed to be the best rapper of all time, Tune initially replied, “The Notorious B.I.G.” before deciding on Jay Z!